Saturday, January 09, 2010

Let the world win - The OZ problem.

Our external affairs minister perhaps almost got to the root of the Ind-Aus problem when he asked a serious question the other day.'Why do our students go to Australia for frivolous courses like facial/hairstyling ? They can be done here in India a lot better.'

I am in Australia on work at a time when both Countries & countrymen are seriously looking at each other & trading a barrage of comments everyday, often through a haplessly TRP crazy Indian media.I had a very lively discussion on this issue with some of my permanent Australian resident friends who got here about 6 years back as students & then settled for good in OZ land.

Coming back to the facial/hairstyling thing,the big idea is this. No one who comes here for a facial/hairstyling course comes do learn the tricks of this trade. He comes with a bigger motive - Settling down in Australia. A liberal PR path that most of the western nations lack makes OZ a big attraction for Indians. And once one person of the family makes his way here, a lot more follow. So where does the problem lie ? The problem lies in what I call the 'law of increasing numbers'. When the number of people engaged in a particular activity shoots over the roof,quality of ppl doing it automatically comes down. It happened with Indian IT,it's happening with OZ migration. My friend remembers the few Indian classmates he used to have when he joined college here. They were smart & classy.They knew the big idea 'When in Rome,do as the Romans do'. The crowd that comes in today doesn't even know where Rome is.

I have not traveled to Melbourne yet, but that's the place most of the incidents occurring are being reported from. And the victims are more students than working Indians.One of my friends frequently travels to Melbourne & he told me that he was amazed at the sheer number of Indians in Melbourne, a figure that's increasing every day. And he was amazed at the way most of them behave in public places - 'Paaji,tussi kaise ho !!!!!! ' goes a guy in full pitch at a public park. He tells me that when he had come in, he doesn't even remember speaking to anyone in the first 4-5 months,anxious to learn the new culture & their ways before committing anything stupid.

Australia is a far liberal nation than India,even America for that matter. And to see problems in Australia with the same prism as we see problems in India is not correct. And perhaps it's this liberalism & openness to various cultures which leads to such a PR regime here. I do agree that any country encouraging migration should also think about ways to integrate them into the mainstream culture. Australia does this in a pretty nice way,the ongoing Sydney festival in which A R Rahman too is staging a concert is a testimony to this. But then there are limits to what a Country/Govt can do, especially in a bad economy. Historically crimes have always increased during a recession. Indian media would do a lot good if it also projected incidents like this & this when airing news.

It's a fact that crimes rates are high in cities these days & it's important that people irrespective of nationalities take care & precaution.If we ensure in most Indian cities that girls & kids who are easy targets of violence are not alone at night on the road,we have to do a bit of the same for ourselves when abroad.I agree that India is a developing nation, but then we shouldn't expect the western world to be picture perfect to the last pixel.
At the same time, while trying to assimilate into the melting pot in a foreign land , it's important that we adjust ourselves to their culture, their way of dressing & quite figuratively,start speaking their language in whatever we do. If hatred can grow in Marathis seeing lot of Indians working & flourishing in Mumbai, the same rules might apply for a section of ppl in alien lands. Remember, we as Indians have to aid & contribute to the growth & flourishment of other cultures, not make them change to our own.

I always wondered while I was in India, why the older Ind residents in Aus never came out in support of the students who were demonstrating. I asked my friends this question & had to agree with his response to some extent. All that is going around is becoming hugely detrimental to the Indian community here. Except for the students, almost everyone would suffer. My friend's marriage is a big question now cos no Dad wants to send his daughter to Sydney,Melbourne.The fact notwithstanding that both cities have consistently ranked in Economist mag's top 10 cities in the world. Even the married ones are not happy. Things are not the same when they call back home,everyone's worried though not much has changed for them in day to day life. Less people coming to Australia from India would mean bad business for Indians who run Indian restaurants/groceries & other India centric businesses abroad.

To conclude, we all (Indian media included)have to understand that in the new century, if someone has to win, it's the World.And I mean the world together.Not India, not Australia, not America,not China. India needs to give the world it's rich learnings in understanding life & the world needs to give India the methodologies it invented to take life to the next level. Let's collectively sit,identify & solve problems that are cropping up in this age of globalisation & migration across continents.

Let the world win !

7 comments:

rajagopal sukumar said...

Thanks for doing a post on this per my request. Interesting points. Given the frequency of attacks on Indian origin people, there does seem to be a racial angle to this problem. Some of the comments from your friends are along the lines of trying to advise rape victims to not dress provocatively.

I am told that Indians are spending close to $2B on Australian educational institutions. With that type of revenues, Australia should be creating a special police force that focuses on safety in and around campuses patronized by Indians. Australia seems to be in denial instead of trying to work out solutions to what is clearly a problem.

rajagopal sukumar said...

BTW, assimilation is not a switch that can be turned on as soon as someone lands in Australia. It will take time to get acculturated. I am sure this problem of acculturation is there in many countries. For example, a bazillion Indians migrate to USA, Canada, UK and other countries. The numbers of immigrants to these countries will be orders of magnitude bigger than immigrants to Oz. How come there are no systematic attacks on Indians in these countries?

Clearly Oz has a problem. They had better wake up and smell the coffee before the $2B revenue stream evaporates.

ranjit nair said...

Thanks for your comment Sukumar.

I am not sure if I fully agree with you though :)

I sometimes compare it with we visiting our neighbour's house. Just cos we pay money to get education, doesn't mean that we have the right to behave the way we want in another country. As you might agree,policing is very non intrusive in Aus,there are hardly any cops to be seen anywhere in Sydney CBD at anytime of the day.

Racism or no racism,I was only trying to figure out a solution to this. I don't think increased policing can effectively decrease racist crimes. If at all they are racist attacks,it would require a mindset change which is difficult to bring about. I feel it would be much easier to make sure ourselves that we are safe. We can't keep loosing lives/getting ourselves hurt just cos the OZ govt doesn't do anything.

ranjit nair said...

And again, there remain some unanswered questions.If they are all racist attacks, why only Indians ?

And if they are in fact attacks targetted only on Indians , why only students ?

There is clearly something that doesn't add up here. I don't think any racist guy would declare for himself that he would target only Indian students. The only possibility I see is that they become highly vulnerable targets of street crimes cos they move ard alone in the suburbs at night for working in night shifts.

And again,we cannot brush aside the remarkable job Australia has done so far. It's handled migrants so well so long & reached enviable standards of living. It's so very multicultural unlike any other place.

We not become Australian from Day 1 we land here, but we should obviously maintain realisation that we are not in India.
I still believe if Chinese students, African students are not getting beaten up, then we clearly have some introspection to do before we start pointing fingers.

sukumar said...

Not sure only Indian students are being attacked. Just last night, a Gurudwara has been set on fire.

Why should racism affect all communities? It is typically targeted at some communities which are typically minority communities. As you yourself said, there is an increased immigration from India and that is increasing the attention of racists?

Based on what you are saying, if the chinese and other immigrants are not affected, the racial angle becomes even stronger.

I don't get the logic in not policing more. If they are not policing elsewhere, there is less crime. If there is some place where there is more crime, policing has to increase. it is quite simple.

I am not saying they can behave the way they want, but speaking on the phone to your relative in India in a park doesn't constitute an offence.

Like i said, we seem to blame the victim's behavior for the victimization. This is exactly the same argument lot of rape victims were told. Now the world knows better.

Oz is in denial. In that state no solution can be found. Saying Indians are a lot safer in Oz than in India is BS.

ranjit nair said...

Or may be the Chinese and other immigrants are better at cultural acclimatisation than us.
Talking on phone to a relative in a train is not offence,but talking in such a way that the entire compartment can hear what you are saying is definitely not welcome in any culture that respects individual privacy.

I do fully agree with you that Aus govt has no business commenting about internal security in India. If at all,their brief should end with concerns abt security of Aussies while in India.
But we should also understand that this particular remark was passed by Victoria's police commissioner,not by any minister or ministerial authority. In matters as serious as this,a nations viewpoint can only be conveyed by the external affairs minister or a spokesperson of the ministry. It's our overzealous media that is picking up comments made by anyone & everyone in OZ to pass it off as a nation's opinion.

What our media doesn't realise is that if it thinks that over-reporting can waken up authorities & it can also have a domino effect in spurring up racial feelings. The cartoon on Klu Klux Klan was totally unnecessary if not out rightly stupid.
Such reporting would also create a fear psychosis amongst Indians or ppl of Indian descent living in Oz which is totally undesirable.


I won't fully agree to the point that Aus govt is in denial.If it has denied something, it's just the racial angle of it. They have indeed stepped up patrolling in Melbourne last year. The place where the Indian community is concentrated in Sydney is the only place in this City where I saw 4 police cars stationed.
We'll have to wait for the investigation to conclude to see whether they were indeed racial or not.I strongly believe that it's a valid demand by the Aus Govt. It's not that they are not convicting ppl.Where it has been discovered that the attack was indeed racial, the courts have accepted it & convicted accordingly. http://www.indianexpress.com/news/australian-jailed-for-racial-attack-on-indian/532276/

For other attacks,we should indeed wait for the police to finish their job with the investigation & only then conclude if it was racial.The law of the particular land of course applies to any crimes committed over there.

ranjit nair said...

It's also an unrealistic expectation from us that crimes should stop completely. If crimes have indeed increased in Vic for all communities, then it would also affect the Ind community which is a sizeable part of the population now.I agree to the view point that no govt can fully eliminate street crimes in cities.

We are not able to prevent a bunch of Marathi fanatics beating up North indians in Mumbai regularly, at least we are talking about different nations & an immensely multicultural envt in the OZ context.